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		<title>An Article I’d Like to Read</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Remember reading this article about five months ago? http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/gallery/2011/05/the_world_is_ending_drive_safely.html I’d love to read it rewritten thusly:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something remarkable about an apology. It could be whispered or shouted. It could be written on a scrap of paper or even a napkin. But seldom does an apology happen on a large scale.</p>
<p>Family Radio’s massive, highly organized billboard [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember reading this article about five months ago? <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/gallery/2011/05/the_world_is_ending_drive_safely.html" target="_blank">http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/gallery/2011/05/the_world_is_ending_drive_safely.html</a> I’d love to read it rewritten thusly:</p>
<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s something remarkable about an apology. It could be whispered or shouted. It could be written on a scrap of paper or even a napkin. But seldom does an apology happen on a large scale.</p>
<p>Family Radio’s massive, highly organized billboard campaign is different.  It&#8217;s revolutionary:  The font is so bold and the images so striking that the billboards&#8217; declaration of “We were wrong. We are sorry” is entirely unexpected. These signs seem to have been designed by highly-paid marketing executives, and yet the message is mundane. This strange contrast between form and content makes the billboards as eye-catching and effective as many commercial ads.</p>
<p>At familyradio.com and the other websites promoted on the billboards, readers learn that Harold Camping’s predictions about the world ending on May 21, then again on October 21, were fabrications aimed at promoting himself, his so-called ministry and fleecing his naïve followers. Self-proclaimed, now ruined, “prophet” Harold Camping now admits that he made the prediction based on dismal investment reports only, and not by careful reading of the Bible.</p>
<p>Michael Garcia, special projects coordinator for Family Radio, is an organizing force behind many of the billboards promoting Camping&#8217;s mea culpa. He estimates that the group has placed about 1,200 billboards across the United States and 2,000 overseas. These are numbers more typical for big brands like McDonald&#8217;s or Coke than a religious group, according to Stephan Freitas, chief marketing officer of the Outdoor Advertising Association.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to put a price tag on such a campaign: Neither Family Radio nor CBS Outdoor, which sold a large number of the billboards, would comment on cost, but the number could easily be in the millions.</p>
<p>&#8220;Every soul is worth every penny. We want to reach everyone,&#8221; Garcia said over the phone. The friendly former truck driver says that it&#8217;s his duty to use his talents to warn as many people about the false teaching of Camping as possible.</p>
<p>&#8220;When you have information—let&#8217;s say you have some information about a wolf in sheep’s clothing and many people are going to be in danger from his false teaching. If you withheld that information, I don&#8217;t see how you could sleep. We have some information that has been checked out in the Bible, and it says that nobody knows the day of Christ’s return.</p>
<p>Garcia and others affiliated with Camping have made great efforts to warn people in every part of the world. Iraq, Russia, Dubai, Lebanon, New York City, and rural Nebraska. Although in some cases billboard owners asked them to remove the potentially libelous words denouncing Camping as a liar and a thief —Garcia said that eventually most came around and helped him get his word out. He sees this as a sign from God.</p>
<p>Camping has quietly retired from his position at Family Radio, but has never renounced his bogus predictions. Thankfully, the people who helped him spread his spurious message earlier this year are now taking responsibility and liquidating all of Family Radio’s assets to reimburse those who stupidly gave their money to Camping.</p>
<p>One former contributor, swindled for almost $10,000 has received more than $38,000 from The Zacchaeus Foundation, formerly known as Family Radio, along with a personal apology from a member of their board of directors.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, now it appears that <a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/family-radio-founder-harold-camping-repents-apologizes-for-false-teachings-59819/" target="_blank">Camping has apologized</a>, but certainly not with the same megaphone that he used to spread his false message . Nevertheless, I pray that his contrition is real and that he will be snatched from the fire (Jude 23).</p>
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		<title>American Pickers (Part 2.5)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 02:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>“Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints.” &#8212; Jude 3</p>
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<p>A reader (Jon D.) commented at the end of Part 1, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>“</strong><strong>Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints.</strong><strong>”</strong> &#8212; Jude 3</p></blockquote>
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<p>A reader (Jon D.) commented at the end of <a href="http://tando.org/archives/1065" target="_blank">Part 1</a>, <em>“</em><em>I must confess that this is my “default” setting far too often.” </em>Mine too, Jon. This is the natural tendency of every human being and Christians are no exception. Those who think they are standing should be careful. (1 Cor. 10:12 )</p>
<p>Toward the end of <a href="http://tando.org/archives/1076" target="_blank">Part 2 in this series</a>, I related some ideas for what to do if you think <strong>you</strong> might be an American Picker. But I didn’t write much about what to do when you encounter a picker in your church who is unaware of his ‘pickiness.’ The reason I omitted this is Matthew 7:3-5 which states that first you must take the log out of your own eye, and then you can pick the speck from your brother’s eye. This wisdom from Jesus is timeless and especially relevant to the American Christian.</p>
<p>American popular society says that one should never judge another. Some Christians even take Matthew 7:1 out of context and say nobody should ever judge anyone. This doesn&#8217;t mean that we mustn&#8217;t engage in biblical discernment, though. Jesus clearly says that we can and should show love to fellow Christians by helping them when sin is affecting their life (“…then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother&#8217;s eye.” (Matthew 7:5 and Luke 17:3) Paul teaches the same thing in Ephesians 5:21 and adds that the reason we do this is out of reverence for Christ; knowing, of course, that we will be judged by the same standard (Matthew 7:2).</p>
<p>I have met and conversed with many ‘great’ pickers, and responded to them with everything from silently walking away, to citing scriptural commands, to heated verbal conflict. <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>I have never had a positive encounter with a picker when I approached the person with the word of God and beat him over the head with it. </strong><span style="color: #000000;">(Figuratively speaking, of course. I haven&#8217;t tried actually beating somebody with a bible&#8230;)</span><strong><br />
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<p><img class="alignright" title="Bible_beat2.jpg" src="http://tando.org/images/Bible_beat2.jpg" alt="Bible Beat" width="267" height="195" /></p>
<p>Pickers want so badly not to accept certain biblical truths that they usually respond with belligerence. The best result I’ve ever experienced after confronting a picker was agreeing to disagree on what the bible means and not talk about it anymore. The worst result I’ve experienced was having objectionable epithets and implied threats hurled at me. Either way, these encounters often result in the loss of fellowship and often friendship too.</p>
<p>There is a simple explanation for this, <strong>the thing we <em>need</em> to hear <span style="text-decoration: underline;">most</span> is usually the thing we <em>want</em> to hear <span style="text-decoration: underline;">least</span>. </strong></p>
<p>Take heart in knowing that it is impossible for you to change a person’s heart or argue them into the kingdom of heaven. God the Holy Spirit is the only person who can convict someone of sin. (John 16:8) He may use us to plant a seed, or water one that another planted, but it is God who gives the growth. (1 Cor. 3:6)</p>
<p>Confronting or correcting an American Picker in your church must be done with humility and brokenness. Removing a log from your eye should leave a scar; but Christ has healed you completely, so today you bear no scars. You see clearly when you should be blind. Tell your Christian brother or sister about the effect of sin on yourself before you repented. Let your humbling experience be an example to them of loving, obedient submission to God Almighty, the convicting power of the Holy Spirit, and the healing power of Jesus. Rejoice in God’s forgiveness and let that be the contact point of your witness to your fellow believer.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>I beg you; please don’t make the same mistake I did. I once (behaved, thought, believed, denied, etc.) just like you. I wasn’t even aware of it until someone said something to me about it and showed me in the Bible that God says it is a sin. At first, I didn’t listen; I even got angry with them for daring to tell me I was wrong. But afterward, the Holy Spirit convinced me that I really was sinning. The Word of God was clear. God led me to repentance and provided the means for my forgiveness and justification; the person and work of his only begotten son, my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Please consider what I’m saying to you. I hope it is apparent that I’m doing this because I care about you. The most hateful thing I could do would be to say nothing and let you continue in the path I was on and be hurt as much or more than I was. I beg you; turn to Christ and trust in Him. He alone can give you the power to reject this sin you love so much; and He can heal you completely.</strong></p></blockquote>
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		<title>American Pickers (Part Two)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>“Scripture is like a river, broad and deep, shallow enough here for lambs to go wading, but deep enough there for an elephant to float.” &#8211;Gregory Dialogus</p>
<p>  Before I get into the first of three types of Pickers identified in the first part of this series, I want to make something perfectly clear to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>“Scripture is like a river, broad and deep, shallow enough here for lambs to go wading, but deep enough there for an elephant to float.”</strong> &#8211;Gregory Dialogus</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignleft" style="margin: 10px; border: 0pt none;" title="AmericanPickers2.jpg" src="http://tando.org/images/AmericanPickers2.jpg" alt="American Pickers" width="252" height="336" /><span id="hwytop"> </span><span id="hwytop"> </span>Before I get into the first of three types of <a href="http://tando.org/archives/1065" target="_self">Pickers identified in the first part of this series,</a> I want to make something perfectly clear to the reader. I am not saying that American Pickers are <strong>not</strong> Christians. I’m not saying they <strong>are</strong> Christians either. Since the First Century, when Jesus established His church, the wheat and the tares have grown up side-by-side. Jesus knew this would be the case (Matthew 13:24-30). Even though you and I can look at the fruit produced by others, none of us can know the heart of another. Jesus is the ultimate judge and His righteous judgment at the end of time will be the only verdict that counts (Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:10).</p>
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<p>Having said all that: Onward!</p>
<hr /><strong>The Scripture Picker</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>From Part 1: <em><strong>Simply defined, American Pickers are people who profess to be Christians, but pick and choose which parts of orthodox (biblical) Christianity they believe. For example, they treat the bible like a smorgasbord, taking their fill of what they like and passing on what they don’t.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>Scripture Pickers are not unlike the <a href="http://www.history.com/shows/american-pickers" target="_blank">History Channel’s American Pickers</a>, Mike and Frank. They root around in the bible until they find something that they adore, something that they can take hold of and make their own; something that doesn’t cost them too dearly.</p>
<p>Scripture Pickers also overlook the things in the bible that don’t interest them; things they think are ugly or broken or for which there is no value in today’s marketplace.</p>
<p>But <strong>the bible is not a collection of interesting debris inside an old barn;</strong> the bible is the inspired Word of God and every single word is valuable for teaching, reproof, correction and training in righteousness. (2 Tim. 3:16)</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Example 1:</span></em></strong></p>
<p>Matthew 6: 9-13 is one of the two places in scripture where we find what we call The Lord’s Prayer. But can you tell me what comes right after these famous verses?  (Mat 6:14-15) <strong>“</strong><strong>For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you,</strong><strong> </strong><strong>but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Whoa! Hold on just a minute!</span> Does that say that if I don’t forgive other people, then God won’t forgive me? It sure would be a lot easier to just forget about those two verses and memorize The Lord’s Prayer, wouldn’t it?</p>
<p>This is an example of picking the things we like and passing on what we don’t because it is too costly to us personally.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Example 2:</span></em></strong></p>
<p>Romans 8:28 is a verse that American Pickers love to quote, and I am foremost among them. <strong>“</strong><strong>And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God,” </strong>This is a wonderfully comforting verse, and all Christians <em>should</em> love it. But I wonder how many love the next two verses, (Rom. 8:29-30). <strong>For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined <em>to become</em> conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;” </strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Now just wait a minute</span> – what’s all this about predestination and foreknowledge? I thought I was in control of my life and that <strong>I chose</strong> to believe in God&#8230; Not so, God chooses us!</p>
<p>This is an example of overlooking the things we think are broken, or outdated in the Bible. Usually we think this because we revere societal values more than biblical values.</p>
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<p>If you know a Christian, or if you <em>are</em> a Christian who ignores difficult portions of scripture, or focuses only on the easy parts, what should you do?</p>
<p>First off, recognize the problem. It is a problem of unbelief in God’s word and His promises. The scripture was once for all delivered to the saints (Jude 3), and we either accept it or reject it in its entirety (Revelation 22:18-19). Take something away, and the Bible is no longer God’s complete and sufficient Word. Add something to it and it is now not wholly of God.</p>
<p>Secondly, and most importantly, confront the problem; confess your unbelief to God in prayer and ask His help in opening your eyes to the full majesty of God’s word. Pray that God would help you see that the Bible is overflowing with truth and grace. Without God, nothing you do will help your unbelief!</p>
<p>Finally, spend more time in the word. Seek out the portions of scripture you have trouble with and ask a trusted Christian mentor about them. Don’t feel bad about questioning God’s word, and don’t be afraid to ask hard questions. Chances are you’re not going to come up with an issue that hasn’t been addressed before. Don’t worry; God’s word can withstand your questions.</p>
<hr /><strong>So what makes this such a danger to Christianity?</strong> Because Christians are encouraged to share their faith; and Christians who are unconvinced of the veracity and authority of scripture spread their weakened and muddled views to others. It’s like a contagious disease passing from one susceptible soul to another. A pastor with a low view of scripture is terribly dangerous because he becomes a Typhoid Mary, singlehandedly infecting scores or hundreds at a time.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>&#8220;Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.”</strong></span> John 17:17</p>
<p>Resources I have and use:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.equipresources.org/site/apps/ka/ec/product.asp?c=muI1LaMNJrE&amp;b=2537845&amp;en=puIUJ1NMJaKML7ORKcJNK4MJKkJZJ3NJIkI5JdNVIuIbE&amp;ProductID=483233" target="_blank">The Bible Answer Book and      The Bible Answer Book 2 by Hank Hanegraaff</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ligonier.org/store/now-thats-a-good-question-paperback/" target="_blank">Now That’s a Good Question      by R. C. Sproul</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/why-we-believe-the-bible-part-1" target="_blank">Why We Believe The Bible</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gty.org/Resources/Bible+Q&amp;A" target="_blank">Bible Q&amp;A</a></li>
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<p>If you have another three and a half minutes. Dr. John Piper has a very relevant commentary on this subject.</p>
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		<title>American Pickers (First in a series)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 03:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, &#8211; Colossians 3:16a</p>
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<p>Who are the American Pickers?</p>
<p>The ones I’m referring to don’t have a show on History Channel, though their names could be Mike or Frank. The American Pickers I’m referring to are the greatest threat to Christianity [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom,</strong> &#8211; Colossians 3:16a</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignleft" style="margin: 10px;" title="AmericanPickers2.jpg" src="http://tando.org/images/AmericanPickers2.jpg" alt="American Pickers" width="252" height="336" /></p>
<p><strong>Who are the American Pickers?</strong></p>
<p>The ones I’m referring to don’t have a show on <a href="http://www.history.com/shows/american-pickers" target="_blank">History Channel</a>, though their names could be Mike or Frank. The American Pickers I’m referring to are the greatest threat to Christianity in the world today; and that’s not hyperbole. They are more dangerous than Islam, Scientology, Paganism, Mormonism, Atheism, Universalism or any other anti-Christian “ism” you can think of.</p>
<p>Simply defined, American Pickers are people who profess to be Christians, but pick and choose which parts of orthodox (biblical) Christianity they believe. For example, they treat the bible like a smorgasbord, taking their fill of what they like and passing on what they don’t. They dwell on the aspects of God’s character they find reasonable and deny His equally holy facets that seem distasteful. They heed Jesus’ teachings about love, acceptance and forgiveness, while disregarding His hard sayings about hell, sinfulness and judgment.</p>
<p>As Paul Simon famously sang, <em>“…a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”</em> This is what defines the American Picker.</p>
<p><strong>Those who call themselves Christians and exercise these types of unbelief openly, are a great threat to Christianity</strong> because they infiltrate our camp and work for the enemy. They wear our uniform while they secretly poison our water supply. A lone spy within the walls of a city can do more harm than a hundred soldiers at the gates.</p>
<p>Every Christian who reads this is a ‘picker’ to some extent, at least privately. If we are human then we are sinners and our best attempts at holiness fall far short of the standard that God requires. (Romans 3:23, Isaiah 64:6). It is temptingly easy to apply the American Picker label to church-going folks I know, and I’m doubtless this tendency is in other Christians as well. But if you are like me, you should find a mirror and look for the picker in yourself before pointing a finger at someone else (Matthew 7:3-5).</p>
<p>My goal in this series is to describe the American Picker well enough that a discerning Christian can identify the threat quickly, protect himself and those for whom he is responsible, and take biblical action to neutralize the threat. Whether the threat is recognized in oneself or in another professing believer, proper identification and knowing what to do is crucial to correcting the error.</p>
<p>I hope you will join me in praying for this series to give God glory, to be edifying for the believer, and to be convicting for the American Picker we all know and (hopefully) love.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 03:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to believing in imaginary feelings, Christianity believes in objective, historical, revealed, actual, rational truth from God. – John MacArthur</p>
<p>If you’ve ever talked to someone about your faith, or religion in general, you’ve probably heard the words, “Well, that’s not what I believe.” And when you prod the person who says this, you ultimately come [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Contrary to believing in imaginary feelings, Christianity believes in objective, historical, revealed, actual, rational truth from God.</strong> – John MacArthur</p></blockquote>
<p>If you’ve ever talked to someone about your faith, or religion in general, you’ve probably heard the words, “Well, that’s not what I believe.” And when you prod the person who says this, you ultimately come to the understanding that their belief is based upon nothing but their own feelings. It is an illusion. The god they believe in is a fabrication, a mixture of truth, mythology and outright lies. Their god has been created in their own imagination. To put a sharper point on it, they have created a god in their own image.</p>
<p>On the other hand, you may have talked to someone who used the words, “Well, that’s not what the bible says.” This is a person that you should listen to because they are referring to an unimpeachable source of truth, rather than their own thoughts and feelings. But you still have to have discernment skills.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps" target="_blank">Fred Phelps</a> can tell you that the bible says that God hates homosexuals so we should all go protest at the funerals of American soldiers . <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Osteen" target="_blank">Joel Osteen</a> can quote 3 John 1:1-2 and tell you that it means that God wants you to be rich, healthy and beautiful; and that your earthly happiness is God’s greatest goal. Both these men claim to be Christians, but their twisted theology contradicts the truth.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so  that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.</strong> &#8211; 2 Peter 3:17-18</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>But you, beloved, build yourself up in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit.” &#8211; Jude 1:20<br />
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<p>The only way to stay out of the snare of false teachers is to know the truth. Not &#8216;my&#8217; truth or &#8216;your&#8217; truth, but the &#8216;true truth.&#8217; The truth of the Bible that comes from God. Pray for wisdom and discernment, spend time in the Word and in prayer.</p>
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		<title>Joyce Meyer doesn&#8217;t sin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[False Teachers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Joyce Meyer]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[righteousness]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, she says she isn&#8217;t a sinner anymore. Listen for yourself.</p>
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<p>My opinion really doesn&#8217;t matter (ever heard a blogger say that?!), so I&#8217;ll just quote scripture.</p>
<p>&#8230;for all have sinned  and fall short of the glory  of God. &#8211; Romans 3:23</p>
<p>There is no one who does good, not  even one. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, she says she isn&#8217;t a sinner anymore. Listen for yourself.</p>
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<p>My opinion really doesn&#8217;t matter (ever heard a blogger say that?!), so I&#8217;ll just quote scripture.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8230;for all have sinned  and fall short of the glory  of God.</strong> &#8211; Romans 3:23</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>There is no one who does good, not  even one.</strong> &#8211; Psalm  14:3</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is  not in us.</strong> &#8211; 1 John 1:8</p></blockquote>
<p>She says she&#8217;s righteous.  She even lies and says that the Bible says that she is righteous. Scripture has something to say about that too.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>But we are  all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy  rags;</strong> &#8211; Isaiah 64:6</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>As it is written, &#8220;THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS,  NOT EVEN ONE</strong> &#8211; Romans 3:10</p></blockquote>
<p>She says she is not poor, miserable or a sinner. Here is what Jesus says.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8216;Because  you say, &#8220;I am rich,  and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,&#8221; and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable  and poor and blind and naked.</strong> &#8211; Revelation 3:17</p></blockquote>
<p>Methinks she needs to learn the meaning of the words, <a href="http://tando.org/archives/676" target="_blank">Simul Justus et Peccator</a>. No. Scratch that. That is for believers, not wolves in sheep&#8217;s clothing.</p>
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		<title>A Dearth of Discernment</title>
		<link>http://tando.org/archives/19</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[False Teachers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[America]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bereans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bible]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Christianity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[joel osteen]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Biblical discernment is the skill that is lacking most among Christians in America today. This is the only explanation for the huge following that people like Joel Osteen enjoy. It takes only a little Biblical knowledge to refute claims like the following:</p>
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<p>Osteen sez (at 1:53),</p>
<p>The scripture says in Ephesians 1 verse 4, ‘Long before God [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biblical discernment is the skill that is lacking most among Christians in America today. This is the only explanation for the huge following that people like Joel Osteen enjoy. It takes only a little Biblical knowledge to refute claims like the following:</p>
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<p>Osteen sez (at 1:53),</p>
<blockquote><p>The scripture says in Ephesians 1 verse 4, ‘Long before God laid down earth’s foundation, he had us on his mind. Because of the sacrifice Christ made, we are a free people; and not just barely free, but abundantly free.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm&#8230; Kinda sets off my Bible Radar. In my Bible, Ephesians 1:4 NASB reads,</p>
<blockquote><p>…just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love…</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny how from that verse, Osteen can say that it was God’s intention that I would have lots of money and be healthy my whole life, free from poverty and sickness.</p>
<p>In an email devotional entitled, &#8220;Today&#8217;s Word&#8221; on July 25, 2006, Osteen wrote,</p>
<blockquote><p>God desires above all, that we prosper and be in health, even as our soul prospers. (John 3:2)</p>
<p><em>Today’s Word from Joel and Victoria</em></p>
<p>God wants you to live a life of victory. He wants you to prosper physically, spiritually, emotionally– in every area of life. God also wants you to prosper financially to fulfill the destiny He’s laid out before you.</p></blockquote>
<p>The poor guy can&#8217;t even misquote scripture correctly. That verse isn&#8217;t John 3:2, it is 3 John 1:2. Big difference. Here&#8217;s what my Bible reads for 3 John 1:2 NASB:</p>
<blockquote><p>Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers.</p></blockquote>
<p>The &#8216;I&#8217; in that verse is John, the writer of the letter; not God as Osteen says. And he is simply giving his friend Gaius a greeting in the traditional Greek manner; a prayer for prosperity and health and John adds that it is  Gaius&#8217; soul that he cares about prospering.</p>
<p>Sorry Joel, but it is clear that your desire, above all, is to lead people away from the Word of God by their wallets.</p>
<p>Luke called the Bereans “…more noble than those in Thessolonica” because they checked everything by searching the scriptures daily. Biblical discernment starts with reading your Bible and not believing everything you hear. Just because someone is on television, sells millions of books and has hundreds of thousands of followers, doesn&#8217;t mean that they are preaching the Word of God. Usually, it means that they are loved by the world. And as it is written in James 4:4 NASB, &#8220;&#8230;do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do not be an enemy of God. We are called to be in the world, but not of the world. Check everything you hear and read (Including this article!) with the scriptures as the Bereans did so long ago. Read your bible. Learn the Word and beware the false teachers like Joel Osteen.</p>
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