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	<title>Trust AND Obey &#187; Discernment</title>
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		<title>Joyce Meyer doesn&#8217;t sin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, she says she isn&#8217;t a sinner anymore. Listen for yourself.</p>
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<p>My opinion really doesn&#8217;t matter (ever heard a blogger say that?!), so I&#8217;ll just quote scripture.</p>
<p>&#8230;for all have sinned  and fall short of the glory  of God. &#8211; Romans 3:23</p>
<p>There is no one who does good, not  even one. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, she says she isn&#8217;t a sinner anymore. Listen for yourself.</p>
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<p>My opinion really doesn&#8217;t matter (ever heard a blogger say that?!), so I&#8217;ll just quote scripture.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8230;for all have sinned  and fall short of the glory  of God.</strong> &#8211; Romans 3:23</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>There is no one who does good, not  even one.</strong> &#8211; Psalm  14:3</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is  not in us.</strong> &#8211; 1 John 1:8</p></blockquote>
<p>She says she&#8217;s righteous.  She even lies and says that the Bible says that she is righteous. Scripture has something to say about that too.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>But we are  all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy  rags;</strong> &#8211; Isaiah 64:6</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>As it is written, &#8220;THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS,  NOT EVEN ONE</strong> &#8211; Romans 3:10</p></blockquote>
<p>She says she is not poor, miserable or a sinner. Here is what Jesus says.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8216;Because  you say, &#8220;I am rich,  and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,&#8221; and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable  and poor and blind and naked.</strong> &#8211; Revelation 3:17</p></blockquote>
<p>Methinks she needs to learn the meaning of the words, <a href="http://tando.org/archives/676" target="_blank">Simul Justus et Peccator</a>. No. Scratch that. That is for believers, not wolves in sheep&#8217;s clothing.</p>
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		<title>Grace &#8211; Amazing or Mundane</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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<p style="text-align: center;">O mundane grace, how dull the sound,
Useless to one like me.
I am not lost, don’t need t’be found,
I’m good, why can’t you see?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">What’s grace, and why do I need it?
God knows my heart is pure.
He loves me just the way I am,
And my salvation’s sure.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Though I may [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;">O mundane grace, how dull the sound,<br />
Useless to one like me.<br />
I am not lost, don’t need t’be found,<br />
I’m good, why can’t you see?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">What’s grace, and why do I need it?<br />
God knows my heart is pure.<br />
He loves me just the way I am,<br />
And my salvation’s sure.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Though I may sin, from time to time,<br />
I’m not as bad as some.<br />
At least I’m not a hypocrite,<br />
Like all those Church-y scum.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">And when I die, and go to Heav’n<br />
And stand before the throne.<br />
He’ll let me in, despite my sin,<br />
For my goodness alone.</p>
<hr />Sadly, there are many people who claim to know the Lord, who would think that there is nothing wrong with these lyrics. I have a very dear friend who believes that God is going to let her into His kingdom because of the good things she’s done. She is a universalist and my heart breaks whenever she tells me some of the non-biblical things she believes. I have talked to her at length about Romans 3:23, Titus 3:5 and Matthew 7:22-23, but she just dismisses those parts of the bible along with others that she doesn’t like. I pray for her every day. If you know people who take God’s Amazing Grace for granted, take time right now to pray for their stony hearts to be removed and replaced with hearts of flesh. (Ezekiel 36:26)</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>&#8220;Beware of manufacturing a god of your own: A god who is all mercy but not just, a god who is all love but not holy, A god who has a heaven for everybody but a hell for none &#8230; Such a god is an idol of your own. The hands of your own fancy and sentimentality have made him. He is not the God of the Bible.”</em> &#8212; J.C. Ryle</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The idea for this article came from an email I received from <a href="http://www.ligonier.org" target="_blank">Ligonier Ministries</a> last week announcing a new book entitled, <a href="http://www.ligonier.org/store/by-grace-alone-hardcover/" target="_blank">By Grace Alone by Dr. Sinclair Ferguson</a>. The email began with the words, <em>“Routine Grace, How Monotonous the Sound?”</em> I haven’t read the book, but would recommend it based on the author’s reputation alone.</p>
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		<title>The First Covenant</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In a recent bible study I attended, the leader said that God’s first covenant with mankind was with Abraham in which God promised that He would give Abraham innumerable descendents and set aside a land for them. This covenant is found in Genesis 15:5-18. While this is a very important covenant, and was one of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="aligncenter" title="RainbowCovenant.jpg" src="http://tando.org/images/RainbowCovenant.JPG" alt="RainbowCovenant" width="307" height="307" />In a recent bible study I attended, the leader said that God’s first covenant with mankind was with Abraham in which God promised that He would give Abraham innumerable descendents and set aside a land for them. This covenant is found in Genesis 15:5-18. While this is a very important covenant, and was one of the first promises that pointed toward Jesus, it was not the first covenant between God and His creation, man.</p>
<p>The first covenant that God made with His creation is found in Genesis 2:16-17. It is known as the Adamic Covenant. I have heard some theologians refer to it as a ‘covenant of works’ since it was based on Adam and Eve not eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I have also heard it said that faith was not necessary for Adam and Eve because they were in the presence of God every day in the Garden of Eden. After all, why do you need faith to believe in a God that is walking and talking with you every day? While all of this may be true on the surface, there was most certainly an element of faith in this first covenant.</p>
<hr />In Genesis 3:1, apparently while the woman was alone in the garden, the serpent (Satan) asks Eve a question, “Has God really said that you shall not eat from any tree of the garden?” Eve responds by saying “No. God has said we may eat of all the trees except one, otherwise we will die.” Satan was and is very crafty and replied with a lie, “You shall not surely die, for God knows that in the day you eat of the fruit, you will become like God.”</p>
<ul>
<li>Here is the first test of faith in the bible. Eve is confronted with a very real dilemma &#8211; conflicting testimonies; the first lie from the father of lies. (John 8:44)</li>
<li>Here is this crafty serpent telling her that God has some secret reason for making the rule against eating the fruit of the tree; He wants to keep her down.</li>
<li>Here is the serpent telling Eve that she will not die &#8211; calling God a liar.</li>
<li>Here is Eve tempted to want more that what God has given her.</li>
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<p>Pride, covetousness and selfishness (the very things that caused Satan to fall) enter into her heart and she was faced with a crisis of faith. Not faith in regard to whether God exists or not, but rather, whether or not God is trustworthy. Whether or not His word is truth.</p>
<p>Eve desired the control that the knowledge of good and evil would give, though it was not hers to possess. Further, when Adam saw that Eve didn’t die immediately, he may have thought he had reason to doubt God’s word. He partook in the selfish desires of his heart and ate of the fruit.</p>
<p>Adam and Eve may not have needed faith to <strong>believe <em>in </em></strong>God, but they needed faith to <strong><em>believe </em></strong>God. The element of faith that was a part of their covenant with God (trust) was thus broken; the element of works (obedience) was also broken, and all humankind was stained with the sin of our parents.</p>
<p>Each of us faces the same crisis of faith every single day. No matter how long we have been Christians, the temptation is always there to covet God’s power and usurp his authority through self-reliance. In this life, none of us will ever be truly righteous (Romans 3:10), none of us will ever be without sin (1 John 1:10). We will always fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23), failing to love Him with our whole heart, soul, mind and strength (Luke 10:27). It is only by leaning completely on Him who died that we are granted the ability to become the righteousness of God (2 Cor. 5:21). Don’t trust your own wisdom or understanding. (Proverbs 3:5) Trust (have faith) only in Him (Isaiah 26:4), and Obey (work) His commandments (John 14:15).</p>
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		<title>Dear Timothy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>2 Timothy 2:24-26 &#8211; 24 The Lord&#8217;s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>2 Timothy 2:24-26 &#8211; <em>24 </em><strong>The Lord&#8217;s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, <em>25 </em>with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, <em>26 </em>and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Dear Timothy,</p>
<p>Thanks for passing along the note that Paul sent you. His words are always helpful for teaching, reproof, correction etc. How are things in Ephesus? I hear that your preaching has gotten much more confident and forceful since Paul&#8217;s last letter. I guess they don&#8217;t call you &#8220;Timid Timmy&#8221; anymore. <img src='http://tando.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was surprised by Paul&#8217;s use of the word, <em>bond-servant</em> in reference to believers. That&#8217;s not a word that is widely understood in my country. In our nation&#8217;s history, a servant was sometimes a slave (a human being owned for life by another human being). I&#8217;m sure that concept sounds as strange to you as &#8220;bond-servant&#8221; does to me. When I shared your letter with my friend Nathan, I explained that when people in your country owe a debt to someone, they often place themselves in service to the one they owe until they work off the debt. We don&#8217;t do things that way exactly, but we certainly understand the concept of debt and I think that helps us understand that a bond-servant of the Lord is someone that owes a debt that can never be repaid. Is that what you think Paul meant?</p>
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<p>Another thing that helps me understand the concept of bond-servant is that there is an alternative. It’s not like being a slave, because we have a choice; slaves had no choice. We incurred a debt and are now unable to pay it back, so our choice is to either work for our creditor or go to prison. It’s not that much different here in my country and it’s not much different between us and God. We owe God a debt that can never be repaid and we have a choice – obedience or prison. Obedience leads us to belief in Jesus as Savior and Lord which leads to eternal life in the presence of God; while prison leads us to a life in this world as a slave to sin which leads to eternal punishment away from the presence of God.<em> </em></p>
<hr />Paul says that we shouldn&#8217;t be quarrelsome, but kind to all. Do you think he really means <em>all </em>when he says <em>all?</em> That’s a difficult order, even for a bond-servant. So God wants us to be kind, patient and gentle to those who oppose us. Paul may have traveled around quite a bit, but I know he never made it to this part of the world. Maybe if he had, he wouldn’t call us to such an impossible task. People around here don’t take kindly to correction, especially not from folks like us who use the Bible as their standard of truth. Objective truth is sneered at in my country.</p>
<p>Paul also says that repentance leads to knowledge of the truth – and that God may grant repentance to those who oppose us. Most people think that repentance is something that we do ourselves, not something that is a gift from God; (actually, most think that repentance isn’t even necessary and too many preachers ignore the subject altogether).</p>
<p>So if our opposition comes to knowledge of the truth, they will come to their senses; and if they come to their senses they will escape the snare of the devil. I really like the way that sounds. It’s like one thing leads to another logically, step by step. Looking at it backward works too. Do you think Paul knew this? They are in the snare of the devil because they’re not in their right mind; they’re not in their right mind because they have no knowledge of the truth and they have no knowledge of the truth because they have not been granted repentance by God.</p>
<p>But it doesn’t end there. God may grant them repentance if we treat them with kindness, gentleness and patience. It could all hinge on how we respond to someone who opposes us. Everything could depend on it! I had no idea that how we treat unbelievers and those who oppose us could have such an effect. Thank you for passing along this knowledge, my friend.</p>
<p>One more thing that I almost left out: Paul’s last phrase, those who oppose us are, “held <em>captive</em> by him [Satan] to do his will.” Timothy, do you think Paul used that word on purpose? I used to believe in coincidence, but now I just see the hand of God everywhere. We are bond-servants of God and those who oppose us are captives of Satan. This language isn’t just an accident, is it? Servants and captives are very different things. We are bond-servants by choice but why are they captives (prisoners) of the devil? Is it ignorance or apathy? Is it selfishness or laziness; or is by choice?</p>
<p>Please send me more soon. There is a richness in Paul’s writing that refreshes me and helps my friends and me know and love God more and more every day.</p>
<p>Grace be with you, my friend.</p>
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		<title>Discernment Q&amp;A &#8211; Part II</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>We now continue the Q &#38; A on Biblical Discernment. I hope you&#8217;ve studied; there is a test at the end. Seriously!</p>
<p>Q. How and when should biblical discernment skills be used?</p>
<p>A. Let’s take the last part of the question first. When should discernment skills be used?</p>
<p>The most important times that they can be used is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now continue the Q &amp; A on Biblical Discernment. I hope you&#8217;ve studied; there is a test at the end. Seriously!</p>
<p><strong>Q. How and when should biblical discernment skills be used?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>A. Let’s take the last part of the question first. When should discernment skills be used?</p>
<p>The most important times that they can be used is when you are listening to a sermon or reading a book or an article on religion, or when you are involved in a conversation about Christianity. When listening to a sermon even your favorite, most trusted minister can get things wrong. If you have studied your bible and have prayed fervently for wisdom you should start to trust your instincts a little more. If a minister says something that doesn’t sound quite right, something that sets off your “Spidey Sense” or that might not be supported by scripture – write it down.</p>
<p>Now we get into the “How?” part of the question. The first thing you should do when you have a question about a sermon is to ask your minister about it. Give him a chance to explain it better. It is possible (hopefully even probable) that you have just misunderstood him. If it is not a misunderstanding, don’t back down if the truth is at stake. Tell him that it still isn’t clear to you. Respectfully ask him to cite the scripture from which he gets his statement. (Acts 17:11) Don’t put him on the spot in front of others and be sure to give him time to research the matter and get back to you when it is convenient. In the meantime, research the matter yourself. Dig into the Bible and research what various commentators have said on the subject. <a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/" target="_blank">The Blue Letter Bible</a> and <a href="http://www.biblestudytools.com/" target="_blank">Crosswalk.com</a> have excellent Bible study tools available online.</p>
<p>Remember, the whole point is to come to a better understanding of God’s word; for you and for your minister.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Q. Sounds like a good plan, but what about when you read something that bothers your “Scripture Sense?”</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>A. The same goes for when you are reading a book or an article about religion, write down the statement that strikes you as wrong and take it to your minister or a trusted elder in your church. Ask them to help you understand what is being said. Rely on godly people you trust to guide you to the scripture that explains your question. Oftentimes, researching things on your own will answer your question, but sharing it with a brother in the faith can often help strengthen the discernment skills of both of you.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Q. What about when you are involved in a conversation about Christianity? It’s not as easy when you’re on the spot and have to defend something controversial.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>A. That is true. You should rely on what you are certain that you know. Again, don’t back down when the truth is at stake. In the Bible, the main things are the plain things and the plain things are the main things. You should have a solid understanding of the “main things” before you engage anyone in serious discussions relating to Christianity.</p>
<p>Something that should not be forgotten is that you should always be respectful and loving in your dealings with brothers in the faith. We are called to speak the truth in love. (Eph. 4:15) If the question involves an issue that is secondary to <a href="http://www.carm.org/essential-doctrines-of-christianity" target="_blank">Essential Christian Doctrine</a>, be sure to point that out and don’t argue with brothers over issues where we have the freedom to disagree without breaking fellowship.</p></blockquote>
<hr /><strong>Discernment Test #1. What we believe.</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong>Don&#8217;t get all worked up, this is just a practice test. Take a look at this statement from an American Mainline Protestant church.</p>
<blockquote><p>We believe that the persistent search for God produces an authentic relationship with God, engendering love, strengthening faith, dissolving guilt, and giving life purpose and direction. We believe that all of the baptized ‘belong body and soul to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.’ No matter who – no matter what – &#8230; no matter where we are on life’s journey – we all belong to God and to one worldwide community of faith. All persons baptized – past, present and future – are connected to each other and to God through the sacrament of baptism.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the surface, this looks like a solid theological statement. Who could possibly argue with a persistent search for God or an authentic relationship with God? Who could disagree that baptized people are all part of a worldwide community of faith?</p>
<p>But here are some questions I had after reading it three or four times: Where in the Bible does it say that simply searching for God produces an authentic relationship with Him? Is baptism what binds believers together or is it something else?</p>
<p>John 3:3 states very clearly what is necessary for somebody to have a relationship with God. Searching for knowledge of God is a good thing, but the search doesn’t produce faith or a relationship. Only by repenting and believing can one be born again to new life in Christ Jesus.</p>
<p>And about that baptism thing&#8230; I don’t deny that all believers are part of a worldwide community of faith (aka <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_church" target="_blank">The Invisible Church</a>), but it isn’t a sacrament that makes it happen. Believers’ baptism is an outward sign of an inward change. (Acts 10:44-47) There are probably millions of non-believers who have been baptized. The thief on the cross can attest to the fact that baptism is not absolutely necessary for salvation. (Luke 23:42-43)</p>
<blockquote><p>The above statement is part of the “What We Believe” statement of the United Church of Christ &#8211; <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070822200952/www.ucc.org/god-is-still-speaking/about/beliefs.html" target="_blank">or at least it was at one time</a>. The UCC changes what they believe the way the wind changes direction in a tornado. This was taken from the UCC’s old website. This statement is not on their current website as far as I can tell. If you have time, read the whole thing. Tell me if I missed the place where it says you have to repent of your sins and believe in Jesus. <a href="http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendId=123054763&amp;blogId=303000641" target="_blank">The statement is also available here.</a></p></blockquote>
<hr /><strong>Discernment Test #2. Faces in the Clouds – A message from God.</strong></p>
<p>Watch this video and then read the page at the link below.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://nancy38332.webs.com/" target="_blank">Interpretation of the above video.</a></p>
<p>What do you think? Use your discernment skills. Is this a biblical interpretation of the clouds in the video or not? Is it a message from God? Are you sure?</p>
<p>Nancy Bush certainly does seem to know the bible, she even quotes Latin and Greek. She is obviously not an opportunist who sees <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6511148/" target="_blank">the Virgin Mary in a partially eaten grilled cheese sandwich</a> and sells it on eBay for $28,000.</p>
<p>What do your discernment skills tell you? Please post a comment. I’ll try to approve comments within a few hours and once you’ve had one comment approved, your subsequent comments will post immediately.</p>
<p>One last thing: please remember to speak the truth in love. Thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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<p>A. Discernment is the most important skill that a Christian can have. Having it is partially a gift, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tando.org/archives/19" target="_blank">I’ve mentioned before </a>how the attribute of discernment is sorely lacking among many Christians, and that reading the Bible is the best way to develop discernment skills. <a href="http://tando.org/archives/232" target="_blank">As is my habit</a>, I’ll start this Q&amp;A with an A.</p>
<blockquote><p>A. Discernment is the most important skill that a Christian can have. Having it is partially a gift, but mostly the result of diligent work. Every Christian can and should develop sound biblical discernment skills.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Q. So what is discernment?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>A. You know what <a href="http://tando.org/archives/169" target="_blank">wisdom </a>is, right? Well, discernment is the heart of wisdom. It is simply good judgment and critical understanding derived from knowledge of the Bible. The Oxford dictionary says it is to “perceive clearly.” Our great-grandfathers might have called it “horse sense.” It is the wisdom and understanding that comes with experience.</p>
<p>In our secular lives, we develop social discernment skills through experience. At a fancy dinner party, belching out loud is rude and anyone who is discerning wouldn’t do it. At a ball game with your buddies however, it may be expected. This is a crude example of discernment, but it makes the point well enough.</p>
<p>At school, work, or home we know not to treat our teacher, boss or spouse with contempt. This also is discernment. To act otherwise would be ill advised and would result in painful repercussions.</p>
<p>In our Christian lives, twisting or ignoring the clear teaching of the Bible to fit our own desires is analogous to belching at a dinner party, sassing our teacher, ignoring the boss or disrespecting our spouse. It&#8217;s liable to get us thrown out or fired. The Christian equivalent is eternity outside the presence of God, where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Q. Why is discernment so important?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>A. 1 Kings 3: 9-10 tells us that Solomon’s request for “an understanding heart” to “discern between good and evil” was “pleasing in the sight of Lord”; so much so that God gave him “a wise and discerning heart” (1 Kings 3:12) as well as the “riches and honor” that he didn’t ask for (1 Kings 3:13). Discernment helps us to know the will of God and to glorify Him by making His will our will. This may not sound like a big deal, but consider the alternative; without discernment, we will live our lives outside of God’s will and will not bring Him glory. The alternative to Solomon’s blessing is a curse: God will be displeased with us if we willfully keep ourselves in ignorance and don’t develop the skills to discern good from evil.</p>
<p>As for why biblical discernment is important in our day, John MacArthur answers this question better than I ever could.  Here is his startling conclusion:</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><span id="ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_rptPulpit_ctl00_lblPostBody">All those who truly love Christ and care about the truth have a solemn duty to defend the truth by exposing and opposing these lies that masquerade as truth. If we fail in that duty because of indifference, apathy, or a craving for the approval of men, we are no less guilty than those who actively spread the lies. &#8211; <a href="http://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/pulpit/Posts.aspx?ID=4470" target="_blank">John MacArthur </a></span></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Q. How do you develop discernment skills?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>A. The easy answer is, “Read the Bible and pray,” and any other answer more complicated than that just confuses the issue. But what is the best way to do this? Start out by reading the book of Proverbs. There are 31 chapters in Proverbs and 31 days in January. You can do this in just five to ten minutes each day. This will give you a solid foundation for increasing your bible knowledge and understanding. Then pray for wisdom and understanding to be given to you so that you can glorify God by rightly discerning His Holy Word.</p>
<p>I would also recommend a book called, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=lpm2Lv3yjY8C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=gbs_navlinks_s#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false" target="_blank">“Now That’s A Good Question” by R.C. Sproul.</a> It answers many difficult questions that both long-time and short-time believers will face.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Q. Once you have discernment, what can you do with it?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>A. Discernment is like a good pocket knife; you have to carry it with you all the time. You have to learn how to use it efficiently and safely. Most importantly, you have to keep it sharp. Having biblical discernment enables you to judge between lies and the truth, or between truth and half-truths as is most prevalent.</p>
<p>Discernment will also allow you correctly judge the claims of people who say they know the Gospel when in fact; they may be distorting it or denying it altogether. The importance of this should be apparent.</p>
<p>Keeping your skills sharpened is done by staying in the Word – continuing to read the bible and listening to faithful teachers preach the Gospel.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Up next: How and when to use discernment, and some sample tests.</strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom. &#8211; James 3:13 </p>

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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom. &#8211; James 3:13</strong><em> </em></p>
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<p>In the book of Proverbs, Wisdom is personified as a woman calling out to the young and the naïve people in the streets. She reaches out her hands to people in the marketplace and shouts in the town square. Unfortunately, her voice is often drowned out by the shrill cries of Folly. Folly also calls to the young and the naïve, enticing them to take up the ways of violence and licentiousness. Proverbs 1:20-24</p>
<p>For millennia, the marketplace was a place to trade goods, services and sometimes-even ideas. It was a place where all of society gathered to discuss religion, rumors, politics and philosophy. It was a place where a young man might first be tempted to travel the path of the wicked. It was a place where a young woman might be enticed to walk in the ways of darkness for the first time. It was the place where young people started on the road to either wisdom or folly, depending on which voice they heeded.</p>
<p>Today, two women shouting in the street would cause a disturbance in some towns, and hardly be noticed in others. These women are still competing for the youthful ear, though. They now use modern means to reach their audience. The twenty-first century marketplace is really not much different from the ones of centuries past. It takes many forms: television and radio, Starbuck&#8217;s and Wal-Mart, bookstores and mega malls; and, of course, the Internet. The voices are still there too. Calling to all.</p>
<p>It seems that many Americans today, especially young people, like to hear and heed words that are pleasant. They listen to the words that promise comfort at no cost, satisfaction without action and riches at the expense of others. It doesn&#8217;t seem to matter whether these words are lies or the truth, wisdom or folly.</p>
<p>The person who has wisdom recognizes these words for what they are. He is able to discern between lies and truth. He chooses truth, even when it is unpleasant, over lies, even when they are comforting.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://tando.org/images/comforting-lies.jpg" alt="comforting-lies" /></p>
<p>Wisdom does not always use easy words. Wisdom sometimes sounds harsh and unmerciful. She doesn&#8217;t entice, she warns and counsels. She promises death and destruction to those who don&#8217;t obey, but promises a secure life, safe from the fear of evil to those who heed her warnings. Proverbs 1:32-33</p>
<p>Rudyard Kipling knew of this interplay between the voices of wisdom and folly as well. His poem, <a href="http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm" target="_blank">The Gods of the Copybook Headings</a> is one of my favorite pieces of literature. If you have never read it, or if it has been a while since you have, <a href="http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm" target="_blank">you may find it here</a>.  His commentary is as applicable to our own time as it was to his almost one hundred years ago.</p>
<p>So how is a young woman to choose between wisdom and folly when Wisdom promises a life of secure hard work and Folly promises instant beauty, fame and riches? How can a young man be expected to choose the rough path of Wisdom when Folly promises him an easy road to sexual satisfaction, power and wealth? I find the answer to these questions in the book of Proverbs.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Hear, my son, your father&#8217;s instruction</strong></p>
<p><strong>And do not forsake your mother&#8217;s teaching</strong></p>
<p>&#8211; Proverbs 1:8</p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Make your ear attentive to wisdom,</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Incline your heart to understanding</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">&#8211; Proverbs 2:2</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Do not let kindness and truth leave you;</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Bind them around your neck,</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Write them on the tablet of your heart.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>So you will find favor and good repute</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>In the sight of God and man.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">&#8211; Proverbs 3:3-4</p>
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<p>Wisdom is knowing that what you believe is right. It is making decisions and taking action based upon your beliefs. It is honestly examining the results of your actions and determining if you made the right choice or not. It is learning from your mistakes and changing your beliefs if necessary. It takes the form of admitting to yourself and others when you are wrong. It also takes the form of knowing that you were right and being an example to others.</p>
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		<title>A Dearth of Discernment</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Biblical discernment is the skill that is lacking most among Christians in America today. This is the only explanation for the huge following that people like Joel Osteen enjoy. It takes only a little Biblical knowledge to refute claims like the following:</p>
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<p>Osteen sez (at 1:53),</p>
<p>The scripture says in Ephesians 1 verse 4, ‘Long before God [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biblical discernment is the skill that is lacking most among Christians in America today. This is the only explanation for the huge following that people like Joel Osteen enjoy. It takes only a little Biblical knowledge to refute claims like the following:</p>
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<p>Osteen sez (at 1:53),</p>
<blockquote><p>The scripture says in Ephesians 1 verse 4, ‘Long before God laid down earth’s foundation, he had us on his mind. Because of the sacrifice Christ made, we are a free people; and not just barely free, but abundantly free.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm&#8230; Kinda sets off my Bible Radar. In my Bible, Ephesians 1:4 NASB reads,</p>
<blockquote><p>…just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love…</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny how from that verse, Osteen can say that it was God’s intention that I would have lots of money and be healthy my whole life, free from poverty and sickness.</p>
<p>In an email devotional entitled, &#8220;Today&#8217;s Word&#8221; on July 25, 2006, Osteen wrote,</p>
<blockquote><p>God desires above all, that we prosper and be in health, even as our soul prospers. (John 3:2)</p>
<p><em>Today’s Word from Joel and Victoria</em></p>
<p>God wants you to live a life of victory. He wants you to prosper physically, spiritually, emotionally– in every area of life. God also wants you to prosper financially to fulfill the destiny He’s laid out before you.</p></blockquote>
<p>The poor guy can&#8217;t even misquote scripture correctly. That verse isn&#8217;t John 3:2, it is 3 John 1:2. Big difference. Here&#8217;s what my Bible reads for 3 John 1:2 NASB:</p>
<blockquote><p>Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers.</p></blockquote>
<p>The &#8216;I&#8217; in that verse is John, the writer of the letter; not God as Osteen says. And he is simply giving his friend Gaius a greeting in the traditional Greek manner; a prayer for prosperity and health and John adds that it is  Gaius&#8217; soul that he cares about prospering.</p>
<p>Sorry Joel, but it is clear that your desire, above all, is to lead people away from the Word of God by their wallets.</p>
<p>Luke called the Bereans “…more noble than those in Thessolonica” because they checked everything by searching the scriptures daily. Biblical discernment starts with reading your Bible and not believing everything you hear. Just because someone is on television, sells millions of books and has hundreds of thousands of followers, doesn&#8217;t mean that they are preaching the Word of God. Usually, it means that they are loved by the world. And as it is written in James 4:4 NASB, &#8220;&#8230;do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do not be an enemy of God. We are called to be in the world, but not of the world. Check everything you hear and read (Including this article!) with the scriptures as the Bereans did so long ago. Read your bible. Learn the Word and beware the false teachers like Joel Osteen.</p>
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